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Sherfey
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 Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:37 am Post subject: Swing |
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Am looking to buy a new lathe. Have a Wilton mini and want to move up.
Lost all the info for the Wilton and can't remember for the life of me what
the swing over the table is. If I buy the JET with a 12" swing does that
mean that I can only turn things 12" in diameter? Leave all the "dumbass"
comments at the front desk as I feel stupid enough..............
TIA
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| Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:55 am Post subject: Re: Swing |
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In my experiance "swing" is the clearance from the center of the
spindle to the bed or the carriage (toolrest) ways. There may be a gap
between the headstock and the toolrest to give a slightly larger cadius
for faceplate work.
The maximum turned diameter is somewhat less if you start with square
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billh
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| Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 6:13 am Post subject: Re: Swing |
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12" swing means that you can turn things 12" in diameter. However, it the
Jet is the model with the rotating headstock then you can swivel it to get
the spindle away from the top of the bed and thus turn larger material. If
it doesn't rotate then 12" is it.
Billh
"Sherfey" <sherfey4@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Am looking to buy a new lathe. Have a Wilton mini and want to move up.
Lost all the info for the Wilton and can't remember for the life of me
what
the swing over the table is. If I buy the JET with a 12" swing does
that
mean that I can only turn things 12" in diameter? Leave all the "dumbass"
comments at the front desk as I feel stupid enough..............
TIA
Scott
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DJ Delorie
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| Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 7:27 am Post subject: Re: Swing |
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"Sherfey" <sherfey4@verizon.net> writes:
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If I buy the JET with a 12" swing does that mean that I can only
turn things 12" in diameter?
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I have a 14" swing lathe, and the largest bowls never end up more than
12" finished diameter. The "swing" has to be bigger than the blank,
not just the finished piece.
Don't forget that the banjo reduces your swing too, or you have to
keep it off to the side.
I'll second the swivel head recommendation, and not just for added
range. It's really handy when you're hollowing to not have to lean
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Bruce Barnett
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| Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 7:30 am Post subject: Re: Swing |
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"billh" <NoMail@Post2Newsgroup.Pls> writes:
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12" swing means that you can turn things 12" in diameter. However, it the
Jet is the model with the rotating headstock then you can swivel it to get
the spindle away from the top of the bed and thus turn larger material. If
it doesn't rotate then 12" is it.
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The Jet 1236 does have a 12" swing, and can swivel. But the slowest
speed is about 550 rpm. I wish it could go slower for larger items.
I'm not good enough to turn a 20" at 550 rpm.
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Bruce Ferguson
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| Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:40 am Post subject: Re: Swing |
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I have a 1236 Jet also. I tried once to rotate the head to work larger
material and while useing that cast iron extender they give had a catch.
The extender broke in half and it and the tool rest bounced off my foot.
Ouch!!! Now I use it to give me a better angle over the bed.
Bruce
"billh" <NoMail@Post2Newsgroup.Pls> wrote in message
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12" swing means that you can turn things 12" in diameter. However, it the
Jet is the model with the rotating headstock then you can swivel it to get
the spindle away from the top of the bed and thus turn larger material. If
it doesn't rotate then 12" is it.
Billh
"Sherfey" <sherfey4@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:iHd9f.3198$iv3.2680@trnddc08...
Am looking to buy a new lathe. Have a Wilton mini and want to move up.
Lost all the info for the Wilton and can't remember for the life of me
what
the swing over the table is. If I buy the JET with a 12" swing does
that
mean that I can only turn things 12" in diameter? Leave all the
"dumbass"
comments at the front desk as I feel stupid enough..............
TIA
Scott
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Kevin
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| Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 6:40 pm Post subject: Re: Swing |
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Heh! Have the same lathe and tried "off the ways" turning once & only once.
The extension is just too ill designed to let me turn with any real level of
conficence. Anyways, the swing is ample for my work.
"Bruce Ferguson" <fergusrb@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
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I have a 1236 Jet also. I tried once to rotate the head to work larger
material and while useing that cast iron extender they give had a catch.
The extender broke in half and it and the tool rest bounced off my foot.
Ouch!!! Now I use it to give me a better angle over the bed.
Bruce
"billh" <NoMail@Post2Newsgroup.Pls> wrote in message
news:3ce9f.1378$LF3.121867@news20.bellglobal.com...
12" swing means that you can turn things 12" in diameter. However, it
the
Jet is the model with the rotating headstock then you can swivel it to
get
the spindle away from the top of the bed and thus turn larger material.
If
it doesn't rotate then 12" is it.
Billh
"Sherfey" <sherfey4@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:iHd9f.3198$iv3.2680@trnddc08...
Am looking to buy a new lathe. Have a Wilton mini and want to move
up.
Lost all the info for the Wilton and can't remember for the life of me
what
the swing over the table is. If I buy the JET with a 12" swing does
that
mean that I can only turn things 12" in diameter? Leave all the
"dumbass"
comments at the front desk as I feel stupid enough..............
TIA
Scott
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billh
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| Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:39 pm Post subject: Re: Swing |
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I had a lathe very similar in appearance to the Jet1236. I did turning with
the headstock rotated but just used the regular toolrest. This of course
meant that I couldn't do real big stuff although I did a fairly good size
platter with the headstock rotated away from me (towards the rear of the
lathe). As was pointed out the low speed is too high for large
out-of-balance stock and also the other components of the lathe are probably
being overstressed too.
Billh
"Kevin" <sklar56@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Heh! Have the same lathe and tried "off the ways" turning once & only
once.
The extension is just too ill designed to let me turn with any real level
of
conficence. Anyways, the swing is ample for my work.
"Bruce Ferguson" <fergusrb@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
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I have a 1236 Jet also. I tried once to rotate the head to work larger
material and while useing that cast iron extender they give had a catch.
The extender broke in half and it and the tool rest bounced off my foot.
Ouch!!! Now I use it to give me a better angle over the bed.
Bruce
"billh" <NoMail@Post2Newsgroup.Pls> wrote in message
news:3ce9f.1378$LF3.121867@news20.bellglobal.com...
12" swing means that you can turn things 12" in diameter. However, it
the
Jet is the model with the rotating headstock then you can swivel it to
get
the spindle away from the top of the bed and thus turn larger material.
If
it doesn't rotate then 12" is it.
Billh
"Sherfey" <sherfey4@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:iHd9f.3198$iv3.2680@trnddc08...
Am looking to buy a new lathe. Have a Wilton mini and want to move
up.
Lost all the info for the Wilton and can't remember for the life of me
what
the swing over the table is. If I buy the JET with a 12" swing does
that
mean that I can only turn things 12" in diameter? Leave all the
"dumbass"
comments at the front desk as I feel stupid enough..............
TIA
Scott
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mac davis
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| Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:02 pm Post subject: Re: Swing |
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On 30 Oct 2005 16:55:32 -0800, marks542004@yahoo.com wrote:
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In my experiance "swing" is the clearance from the center of the
spindle to the bed or the carriage (toolrest) ways. There may be a gap
between the headstock and the toolrest to give a slightly larger cadius
for faceplate work.
The maximum turned diameter is somewhat less if you start with square
material.
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umm... if my math is right, you're doubling the swing...
by your measurement, you can turn a 24" bowl with a 12" swing, right?
mac
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mac davis
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| Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:05 pm Post subject: Re: Swing |
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On 31 Oct 2005 02:30:58 GMT, Bruce Barnett
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"billh" <NoMail@Post2Newsgroup.Pls> writes:
12" swing means that you can turn things 12" in diameter. However, it the
Jet is the model with the rotating headstock then you can swivel it to get
the spindle away from the top of the bed and thus turn larger material. If
it doesn't rotate then 12" is it.
The Jet 1236 does have a 12" swing, and can swivel. But the slowest
speed is about 550 rpm. I wish it could go slower for larger items.
I'm not good enough to turn a 20" at 550 rpm.
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IMHO, the swivel head is for 2 things:
To get you to build or buy a floor or lathe mounted outboard tool rest... (I'll
build one some day)
For sanding and finishing, it's convenient for me to swivel it 180 degrees and
have better access to it... (also, in my "shop", turning it 180 makes the
opening of a bowl or vase face the garage door for better/more natural light)
mac
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| Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:59 pm Post subject: Re: Swing |
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Pardon me, you are quite correct. I should have said that the
clearance is 1/2 the swing. |
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gepitto_
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:59 am Post subject: Re: Swing Attn: Bruce Ferguson |
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Bruce: I also have the 1236 and the tool rest extension broke twice and
with not much pressure/force. The resulting break ,the second time second
rest managed to get my tool into the oncoming portion of the bowl causing me
a severe laceration of my thumb and a fracture. I am in the process of a
lawsuit with WMH toolgroup as I did not think this was a safe toolrest and
they ignored my concern at R&D as well as quality control. I am asking your
thoughts on this and also if you would back me up if you do. I can be
reached at Gepitto @ charter dot net.
My name is Richard and if you know of anyone else which has had this same
problem please let me know Thanks Richard O'
"Bruce Ferguson" <fergusrb@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
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I have a 1236 Jet also. I tried once to rotate the head to work larger
material and while useing that cast iron extender they give had a catch.
The extender broke in half and it and the tool rest bounced off my foot.
Ouch!!! Now I use it to give me a better angle over the bed.
Bruce
"billh" <NoMail@Post2Newsgroup.Pls> wrote in message
news:3ce9f.1378$LF3.121867@news20.bellglobal.com...
12" swing means that you can turn things 12" in diameter. However, it
the
Jet is the model with the rotating headstock then you can swivel it to
get
the spindle away from the top of the bed and thus turn larger material.
If
it doesn't rotate then 12" is it.
Billh
"Sherfey" <sherfey4@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:iHd9f.3198$iv3.2680@trnddc08...
Am looking to buy a new lathe. Have a Wilton mini and want to move
up.
Lost all the info for the Wilton and can't remember for the life of me
what
the swing over the table is. If I buy the JET with a 12" swing does
that
mean that I can only turn things 12" in diameter? Leave all the
"dumbass"
comments at the front desk as I feel stupid enough..............
TIA
Scott
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Steven Raphael
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 8:54 pm Post subject: Re: Swing |
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Well for what it is worth. I have a Craftman Lathe with the swivel head
stock and I bought the outbourd turning rest settup. It vibrates far to much
for me to use it as is. But if I were to make a stand alone rest for it the
swivel head would be a plus for this lathe.
"Sherfey" <sherfey4@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Am looking to buy a new lathe. Have a Wilton mini and want to move up.
Lost all the info for the Wilton and can't remember for the life of me
what
the swing over the table is. If I buy the JET with a 12" swing does
that
mean that I can only turn things 12" in diameter? Leave all the "dumbass"
comments at the front desk as I feel stupid enough..............
TIA
Scott
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mac davis
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 9:37 pm Post subject: Re: Swing |
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On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 10:54:40 -0500, "Steven Raphael"
<stevenraphael@chartermi.net> wrote:
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Well for what it is worth. I have a Craftman Lathe with the swivel head
stock and I bought the outbourd turning rest settup. It vibrates far to much
for me to use it as is. But if I were to make a stand alone rest for it the
swivel head would be a plus for this lathe.
I was thinking about using the Jet mini for an outboard rest for the 1442... |
problem is that I'd have to use the itty-bitty tool rest...
It's kinda weird how it seemed so sturdy until I got used to 1" posts..
mac
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Ken Moon
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| Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 3:16 am Post subject: Re: Swing Attn: Bruce Ferguson |
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"gepitto_" <gepitto_@charter.net> wrote in message
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Bruce: I also have the 1236 and the tool rest extension broke twice and
with not much pressure/force. The resulting break ,the second time second
rest managed to get my tool into the oncoming portion of the bowl causing
me
a severe laceration of my thumb and a fracture. I am in the process of a
lawsuit with WMH toolgroup as I did not think this was a safe toolrest and
they ignored my concern at R&D as well as quality control. I am asking
your
thoughts on this and also if you would back me up if you do. I can be
reached at Gepitto @ charter dot net.
My name is Richard and if you know of anyone else which has had this same
problem please let me know Thanks Richard O'
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Google Jet 1236 in this news group. There have been several reports of
broken extensions here over the past few years. IMHO this is just not an
acceptable design for a cast iron device. I'm usually not even comfortable
with a 12 inch cast iron toolrest, at least not the coarse grain iron you
find in most Chiwanese products today. I use one, but it has a 3/8 inch HHs
rod epoxyed across the top. That evens out the pressure distribution as well
as preventing tool dig in.
Ken Moon
Webberville, TX |
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