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[Bay Area Dave]

Guys, what chains or Bay Area local stores might have dye stains, THICK
gel stains and TransTint. I don't want to use Minwhacks gel stain.

I have been using pigment stains and have tired of the results on oak.
I want a more blended look for my next project (china cabinet). I'd
also consider tinting the Enduro top coats (water borne poly) if the
staining process gives me close to what I want but not exactly. I don't
think it would be a good idea to rely solely on toning, as deep
scratches (heaven forbid!) would be too noticeable, right?

I've got a fairly good idea of what I need, but don't know where to
quickly get these products. Your help will be mucho appreciated!

Footnote: I just realized that dyes are known to fade quickly, compared
to pigment stains. Just how bad is this problem for water soluble dyes
in your experience?

dave

[Doug Miller]

In article <TgJ0c.32146$LT1.23291@newssvr25.news.prodigy.com>, Bay Area Dave <da@nospam.com> wrote:

[Bay Area Dave]

nope! we haven't got much out here, including high speed internet
access! 40 miles away there is a Woodcraft. that's about it that I
know of. Rockler's closest store is 61 miles away. In fact, Mapquest
suggests, "why drive when you can fly". LOL!

dave

Doug Miller wrote:

[Leon]

Dave check the Rockler and the Woodcraft web sites.


"Bay Area Dave" <da@nospam.com> wrote in message
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[Bay Area Dave]

How about Woodworkers Supply? I just called them for a catalog. ever
use them, Leon? I've got a Rockler and Woodcraft catalog in my office;
I'll take a look to see if there are color samples.

dave

Leon wrote:

[BruceR]

Dave,
Woodcraft carries the TransFast WB dyes and I believe the TransTint (alc
based) powders. Call to be sure of stock.

The light fastness of the dyes is for all practical purposes "forever"
if used inside where there is minimal UV.

-Bruce


Bay Area Dave wrote:

[Bay Area Dave]

is Bartley Gel stains pigment or dye based? the sample images of the
colors appear to me to indicate the results I get from a pigment stain
such as Bonakemi's (similar in appearance to Minwhacks). here is the
link to the images:
http://woodworker.com/cgi-bin/FULLPRES.exe?PARTNUM=875-212&LARGEVIEW=ON

see the prominent grain in the Golden Oak sample? that's NOT what I'm
after; that's what I already get with what I'm using.

dave


Leon wrote:

[Leon]

"Bay Area Dave" <da@nospam.com> wrote in message
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[Leon]

Not for sure but if I had to guess I would say pigmented.
You might send an e-mail to them bartley@goeaston.net
or visit the site http://www.bartleycollection.com/finish.htm


"Bay Area Dave" <da@nospam.com> wrote in message
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[Bay Area Dave]

yup, from NM. I don't like ordering online either. That is
particularly difficult to do when trying to pick from a small color
sample onscreen. If I get the wrong color, of course I'm stuck with it.

dave

Leon wrote:

[Bay Area Dave]

Thanks, Leon! I tried to find them online and couldn't. I called the
800 from bartleycollection.com and they said it's pigment. that's why
the sample looks similar to my current results. So that's out.

what's left; TransFast, as Bruce mentioned, but they don't have a
fruitwood color. I'd have to blend several colors together; forget that.

BTW, how did you find that website? I Googled "Bartley stain" and got a
bunch of sites selling it, but not the mfgr.


dave



Leon wrote:

[BruceR]

I go to them on occasion for power tools when they have a good sale
price. Their stock of finishing products is on several shelves in the
back of the store and look like they have been on the shelves for
decades. When I first went there 8 years ago they had dusty cans of
shellac that are still there today.

Hopefully mail order stuff is fresher...
-Bruce


Leon wrote:

[mttt]

"Bay Area Dave" <da@nospam.com> wrote in message
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[Wes Stewart]

On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 18:04:05 GMT, Bay Area Dave <da@nospam.com> wrote:

|Thanks, Leon! I tried to find them online and couldn't. I called the
|800 from bartleycollection.com and they said it's pigment. that's why
|the sample looks similar to my current results. So that's out.
|
|what's left; TransFast, as Bruce mentioned, but they don't have a
|fruitwood color. I'd have to blend several colors together; forget that.
|
|BTW, how did you find that website? I Googled "Bartley stain" and got a
|bunch of sites selling it, but not the mfgr.
|
|
|dave

You can always try:

http://www.homesteadfinishing.com/

Go to the forum and get your questions answered, often by Jeff Jewitt
himself.


Wes

[Bay Area Dave]

thanks Wes, but now that I know they are pigment stains, they are off my
short list.

dave

Wes Stewart wrote: