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Reyd Dorakeen
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 6:24 am    Post subject: different grinds Reply with quote

I was looking at pictures of different tools, thinking of trying the
different grinds on the shop tools, and I came accross a david
ellsworth ground gouge, it seems to have such a steep grind that I
cant see how it would be usefull in a deep bowl, as it would not be
able to go very far(used with the flute pointing like a C.
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-Reyd
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Jim Gott
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 11:14 am    Post subject: Re: different grinds Reply with quote

<< I came accross a david
ellsworth ground gouge, it seems to have such a steep grind that I
cant see how it would be usefull in a deep bowl, as it would not be
able to go very far(used with the flute pointing like a C. >><BR><BR>

Reyd,
If you're talking about the blunt angle at the tip, that's exactly what's
useful at the bottom of the bowl. You can keep the bevel rubbing at the bottom
without the handle touching the sides. To traverse down the side of the bowl
you bring the flute up more vertically and cut with the left wing, then roll it
over when you reach the bottom. I have a gouge like this which I use mainly for
the inside bottom, and another swept back grind where the tip bevel angle is
about 45 degrees that I use for everything but the inside bottom when turning
bowls.
-Jim Gott-
San Jose, CA
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George
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 4:48 pm    Post subject: Re: different grinds Reply with quote

You're right, but not all bowl cuts are finishing cuts, and not all bowls
are oriented or patterned the same.

Bowl gouges work where you haven't the room for a long-beveled gouge, or
where you can't get a toolrest in close, even though you know you should.
Justifies their existence, if nothing else does. I often use the wing to
cut with the point of the gouge down to provide a skew angle for entry and
sides, transitioning to the point and lifting it around into the bottom.
The method works, even in tall deep confines, but there is a tendency to
burnish in at the transition between side and bottom as the heel of the
bevel presses the wood. That's one of the reasons why I like to go with
the flatter gouges for the final trim.

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I was looking at pictures of different tools, thinking of trying the
different grinds on the shop tools, and I came accross a david
ellsworth ground gouge, it seems to have such a steep grind that I
cant see how it would be usefull in a deep bowl, as it would not be
able to go very far(used with the flute pointing like a C.
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