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Reyd Dorakeen
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 Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 10:26 am Post subject: shops on Vancouver Island |
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anybody know of anyplace that does woodworking, or anything with wood that
could use an unemployed teenager? I'm hardworking even if im not too
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Maxprop
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| Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 5:37 pm Post subject: Re: shops on Vancouver Island |
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"Reyd Dorakeen" <Reyd@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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anybody know of anyplace that does woodworking, or anything with wood that
could use an unemployed teenager? I'm hardworking even if im not too
bright:)
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Reyd,
I'm nowhere near Vancouver Is., but speaking in a more general sense, it
seems that most locales have wood shops of one nature or another. They are
virtually ubiquitous. My family produced custom hardwood kitchens for well
over 100 years, and we employed nearly 600 craftsman (a term not used
loosely) at the peak of company's operation. Sadly there is little market
these days for custom kitchens of the quality we produced, and the company
closed its doors a few years back.
That said, there are still numerous small woodworking shops in our area,
producing myriad products ranging from cabinets to furniture to toys. A
little footwork should reveal similar small firms in your area, I would
think.
Another area you should explore is the wooden boatbuilding industry. Most
locations on or near water these days have tiny boatbuilding shops. The
resurgence in interest in wooden boats has been nothing short of phenomenal.
This is an area where true craftsmanship shines like a beacon on a foggy
coastal night. Top notch woodworkers are NOT a dime a dozen in the
boatbuilding industry. They are valued highly and paid well. For this
reason, some of these shops will employ youngsters in apprenticeships,
aiming at permanent employment eventually. I'd certainly think Vancouver
Is. would have at the very least a few of these shops.
A little footwork is in order. Good luck
Max |
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Arch
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| Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 8:55 pm Post subject: Re: shops on Vancouver Island (aside to Max) |
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Hi Max, I'm continually surprised at the diverse backgrounds of
woodturners, esp. RCW posters. Any company run by the same family for
over a century, esp. a woodworking one, ought to have its history
recorded. Your ability to write plus your knowledge of woodworking and
the industry make you a natural to preserve so many anecdotes that will
be lost to us. Maybe this has been done or the demise of a quality
family owned company might be painful to write about? I wish someone in
my family had done that for my familiy's long gone naval stores
business. As for wooden boats, down here they are sort of like some
beautiful women we have all known, lovely to look at but often a PITA.
Bad humor for the women, salt water worms for wood hulls.  Arch
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Reyd Dorakeen
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| Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 12:36 am Post subject: Re: shops on Vancouver Island |
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already visiting the places I found in the yellow pages of the phone book,
resumes and hat in hand:) not all places are well know or in the yellow
pages, so thats why I'm asking.
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"Reyd Dorakeen" <Reyd@shaw.ca> wrote in message
anybody know of anyplace that does woodworking, or anything with wood that
could use an unemployed teenager? I'm hardworking even if im not too
bright:)
Reyd,
I'm nowhere near Vancouver Is., but speaking in a more general sense, it
seems that most locales have wood shops of one nature or another. They are
virtually ubiquitous. My family produced custom hardwood kitchens for well
over 100 years, and we employed nearly 600 craftsman (a term not used
loosely) at the peak of company's operation. Sadly there is little market
these days for custom kitchens of the quality we produced, and the company
closed its doors a few years back.
That said, there are still numerous small woodworking shops in our area,
producing myriad products ranging from cabinets to furniture to toys. A
little footwork should reveal similar small firms in your area, I would
think.
Another area you should explore is the wooden boatbuilding industry. Most
locations on or near water these days have tiny boatbuilding shops. The
resurgence in interest in wooden boats has been nothing short of phenomenal.
This is an area where true craftsmanship shines like a beacon on a foggy
coastal night. Top notch woodworkers are NOT a dime a dozen in the
boatbuilding industry. They are valued highly and paid well. For this
reason, some of these shops will employ youngsters in apprenticeships,
aiming at permanent employment eventually. I'd certainly think Vancouver
Is. would have at the very least a few of these shops.
A little footwork is in order. Good luck
Max
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Maxprop
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| Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 9:59 am Post subject: Re: shops on Vancouver Island |
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"Reyd Dorakeen" <Reyd@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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already visiting the places I found in the yellow pages of the phone book,
resumes and hat in hand:) not all places are well know or in the yellow
pages, so thats why I'm asking.
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That's why I suggested footwork. Over the past decade I've discovered more
small boat builders (I'm a chronic boat-a-holic) by simply walking around
port towns and along river and lake roads here and in Michigan. These shops
were seldom in the Yellow Pages. Also you might walk the docks and ask
those with wooden boats whom they seek for repairs and such. A lot of info
can be gleaned from a little sleuthing. Something tells me Vancouver Island
is rife with woodshops--just a guess as I've never been there.
Max |
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Maxprop
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| Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 10:16 am Post subject: Re: shops on Vancouver Island (aside to Max) |
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"Arch" <almcc@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Hi Max, I'm continually surprised at the diverse backgrounds of
woodturners, esp. RCW posters. Any company run by the same family for
over a century, esp. a woodworking one, ought to have its history
recorded. Your ability to write plus your knowledge of woodworking and
the industry make you a natural to preserve so many anecdotes that will
be lost to us. Maybe this has been done or the demise of a quality
family owned company might be painful to write about? I wish someone in
my family had done that for my familiy's long gone naval stores
business.
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Hi Arch,
Interesting that you should bring this up, as it has occupied my thoughts
for quite some time now. Sadly a lot of the company records have been lost
over the years. And I'm sorry to say that I, personally, have been
responsible for the loss of quite a few. My family's company was Coppes
Napanee Kitchens, in Nappanee, IN. My ancestors came from Medina, OH, in
the mid-1800s and established a lumber planing mill near the railroad. The
name Napanee was adopted from Napanee, Ontario, but when the town grew up
around the planing mill, someone at the Indiana state records bureau screwed
up the spelling of the fledgling town, adding a 'P' to the name. It stuck.
Later the company moved from lumber to building self-contained kithenettes,
more commonly known as Hoosier-type cabinets. Eventually we produced what
was ostensibly one of the finest custom hardwood cabinet lines in the
country. My family sold the company in the late 60s, it floundered through
several miscreant ownerships, and is now defunct.
Recently I had the opportunity to take some photos of the old plant and the
machinery, which are all antiques at this point. A prominent
businessman/citizen of Nappanee has attempted to turn the oldest part of the
factory into a national-class museum, but that pends. He, fortunately, has
done much research into the history and background of the company, so all is
not lost. And the local library has reams of company literature and
documents. It is my sincere hope that one day the factory, which is on the
National Register of Historic Places, will be saved and its history compiled
into printed form. I'm currently compiling some of the missing details for
that project.
Sorry for the lengthy expose'. Your suggestion is one that his been on the
front burner for a long time.
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As for wooden boats, down here they are sort of like some
beautiful women we have all known, lovely to look at but often a PITA.
Bad humor for the women, salt water worms for wood hulls. Arch
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I truly love wooden boats--especially when they belong to others. :-)
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Reyd Dorakeen
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| Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 11:06 am Post subject: Re: shops on Vancouver Island |
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unfortunetly the only boat place I know of(was in the inner harbor) went
bankrupt, But I will ask the people I know who have wooden boats, or get my
dad to ask around when he's out at the RVYC to sail. I know of a few
shipyards, but the only woodworking that happens there is the cabinets and
flooring in the fancy/ugly/pointless/gluttonous tubs that are owned by the
very rich and lacking in taste</rant>
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"Reyd Dorakeen" <Reyd@shaw.ca> wrote in message
already visiting the places I found in the yellow pages of the phone book,
resumes and hat in hand:) not all places are well know or in the yellow
pages, so thats why I'm asking.
That's why I suggested footwork. Over the past decade I've discovered more
small boat builders (I'm a chronic boat-a-holic) by simply walking around
port towns and along river and lake roads here and in Michigan. These shops
were seldom in the Yellow Pages. Also you might walk the docks and ask
those with wooden boats whom they seek for repairs and such. A lot of info
can be gleaned from a little sleuthing. Something tells me Vancouver Island
is rife with woodshops--just a guess as I've never been there.
Max
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Reyd Dorakeen
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| Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 11:08 am Post subject: Re: shops on Vancouver Island (aside to Max) |
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they are a hole in the water surrounded by wood that people pour their money
into (good buisness for people who can find work on em I guess;-))
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I truly love wooden boats--especially when they belong to others. :-)
Max
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Arch
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| Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 2:30 pm Post subject: Re: shops on Vancouver Island (aside to Max) |
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Thanks for the interesting expose', Max. 'Hoosiers' weren't turned
furniture and thus are OT for rcw. However, I bet many of us remember
with pleasure being in the kitchen watching mom working at a Napanee
hoosier; that little free standing white cabinet with its red stripes,
its enameled metal top, the kneading board that slid out and its shiney
tin flour shifter. Now they are items for collecters. Arch
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Jim Pugh
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| Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 6:32 pm Post subject: Re:(aside to Max) |
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Max, I would like to communicate with you directly. Would you please send me
your email address?
Jim Pugh, Elyria, OH
Maxprop wrote:
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"Arch" <almcc@webtv.net> wrote in message
Hi Max, I'm continually surprised at the diverse backgrounds of
woodturners, esp. RCW posters. Any company run by the same family for
over a century, esp. a woodworking one, ought to have its history
recorded. Your ability to write plus your knowledge of woodworking and
the industry make you a natural to preserve so many anecdotes that will
be lost to us. Maybe this has been done or the demise of a quality
family owned company might be painful to write about? I wish someone in
my family had done that for my familiy's long gone naval stores
business.
Hi Arch,
Interesting that you should bring this up, as it has occupied my thoughts
for quite some time now. Sadly a lot of the company records have been lost
over the years. And I'm sorry to say that I, personally, have been
responsible for the loss of quite a few. My family's company was Coppes
Napanee Kitchens, in Nappanee, IN. My ancestors came from Medina, OH, in
the mid-1800s and established a lumber planing mill near the railroad. The
name Napanee was adopted from Napanee, Ontario, but when the town grew up
around the planing mill, someone at the Indiana state records bureau screwed
up the spelling of the fledgling town, adding a 'P' to the name. It stuck.
Later the company moved from lumber to building self-contained kithenettes,
more commonly known as Hoosier-type cabinets. Eventually we produced what
was ostensibly one of the finest custom hardwood cabinet lines in the
country. My family sold the company in the late 60s, it floundered through
several miscreant ownerships, and is now defunct.
Recently I had the opportunity to take some photos of the old plant and the
machinery, which are all antiques at this point. A prominent
businessman/citizen of Nappanee has attempted to turn the oldest part of the
factory into a national-class museum, but that pends. He, fortunately, has
done much research into the history and background of the company, so all is
not lost. And the local library has reams of company literature and
documents. It is my sincere hope that one day the factory, which is on the
National Register of Historic Places, will be saved and its history compiled
into printed form. I'm currently compiling some of the missing details for
that project.
Sorry for the lengthy expose'. Your suggestion is one that his been on the
front burner for a long time.
As for wooden boats, down here they are sort of like some
beautiful women we have all known, lovely to look at but often a PITA.
Bad humor for the women, salt water worms for wood hulls. Arch
I truly love wooden boats--especially when they belong to others. :-)
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Stuart Johnson
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| Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 10:32 pm Post subject: Re: shops on Vancouver Island |
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In article <BC714C61.9F8E%Reyd@shaw.ca>, Reyd Dorakeen <Reyd@shaw.ca> wrote:
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I know of a few shipyards, but the only woodworking that happens there is the cabinets and
flooring in the fancy/ugly/pointless/gluttonous tubs that are owned by the
very rich and lacking in taste</rant
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So what if you don't like the end product that is using the cabinets. It is
still takes woodworking to build them and a good way to build your experiance.
You start off at some place like that and make contacts plus learn how things
are done.
Stuart Johnson
Red Oak, Texas |
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Maxprop
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| Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 3:29 am Post subject: Re: shops on Vancouver Island (aside to Max) |
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"Reyd Dorakeen" <Reyd@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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they are a hole in the water surrounded by wood that people pour their
money
into (good buisness for people who can find work on em I guess;-))
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Remove the phrase "surrounded by wood" and you've got a working definition
of boats in general. Don't ask how I know . . .
Max |
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Maxprop
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| Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 3:41 am Post subject: Re: shops on Vancouver Island (aside to Max) |
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"Arch" <almcc@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Thanks for the interesting expose', Max. 'Hoosiers' weren't turned
furniture and thus are OT for rcw. However, I bet many of us remember
with pleasure being in the kitchen watching mom working at a Napanee
hoosier; that little free standing white cabinet with its red stripes,
its enameled metal top, the kneading board that slid out and its shiney
tin flour shifter. Now they are items for collecters. Arch
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I've found a variety of them on ebay of late. All are quite costly these
days. My particular example is medium natural oak with a porcelain top.
Some came with stained glass (option) and the early ones had zinc tops. The
painted ones were generally birch or maple. Those with the flour sifters
are quite prized--most have lost their accessories over the years.
Okay, enough about Hoosier cabinets. They are OT, but wonderful items to
view. Interesting to note is that some of the other furniture our company
produced--tables, etc.--did have turned legs. I recall seeing an ancient
automatic lathe in the factory as a child. It was huge and probably weighed
over 3 tons. It would turn a piece, then flute it or add spirals, as
desired. Quite a machine.
Max |
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Maxprop
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| Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 3:46 am Post subject: Re: shops on Vancouver Island |
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"Reyd Dorakeen" <Reyd@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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I know of a few
shipyards, but the only woodworking that happens there is the cabinets and
flooring in the fancy/ugly/pointless/gluttonous tubs that are owned by the
very rich and lacking in taste</rant
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Reyd, Reyd . . . those megayacht interiors probably represent the pinnacle
in woodworking artistry. Especially the tasteful, traditional interiors.
And much of that cabinetry is hand-built and finished by highly-skilled
artisans (craftsman or woodworkers just doesn't quite describe them). And
one other aspect: those yachts sell for millions, translating into decent
wages for those who build them. Think about it. I smell a career
opportunity . . .
Max |
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Reyd Dorakeen
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| Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 6:28 am Post subject: Re: shops on Vancouver Island |
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you better believe I'd want to work there. I was just having an enjoyable
rant about the ugly boats:)
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So what if you don't like the end product that is using the cabinets. It is
still takes woodworking to build them and a good way to build your experiance.
You start off at some place like that and make contacts plus learn how things
are done.
Stuart Johnson
Red Oak, Texas |
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