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Dave A.
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 Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 6:28 am Post subject: Router bit longevity question |
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I have to make 36 windows for my barn/shop. I'll be using kiln dried heart
redwood, S. yellow pine is also an option and slightly more $$ but stronger.
I plan on using a 1/2" routerbit set up like the link.
http://www.sommerfeldtools.com/tutorial-windowsash.asp basically it's a 1
3/8" stile/rail...but with a tennon (under $100). the tennon is needed for
strength. Each window is 22/42 inches with 6 divided window panes. That
makes 25 feet per window of routing. (give or take) times 36 is 900 feet of
routing...let's call it 1000 including waste.
I looked at shaper bits and none will route with the tennon, they are more
expensive about $425 (and I want that tennon)
So here is my question...can I get 1000 feet of routing (2hp Porter Cable
single speed) through redwood from a router bit..even with 2 bit's I'm 1/2
the price of the shaper. I plan on taking my time... but full cut (single
pass)
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Mike in Mystic
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| Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 6:35 am Post subject: Re: Router bit longevity question |
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check this out:
http://www.patwarner.com/routerbits.html
Mr. Warner knows about routing and according to the link above on his site,
you likely will dull the bits after 200-400 feet of edge cutting. Anyway,
he has more info there, as well as on the rest of his site.
Mike
"Dave A." <res0g68u@verizon.net> wrote in message
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I have to make 36 windows for my barn/shop. I'll be using kiln dried heart
redwood, S. yellow pine is also an option and slightly more $$ but
stronger.
I plan on using a 1/2" routerbit set up like the link.
http://www.sommerfeldtools.com/tutorial-windowsash.asp basically it's a
1
3/8" stile/rail...but with a tennon (under $100). the tennon is needed
for
strength. Each window is 22/42 inches with 6 divided window panes. That
makes 25 feet per window of routing. (give or take) times 36 is 900 feet
of
routing...let's call it 1000 including waste.
I looked at shaper bits and none will route with the tennon, they are more
expensive about $425 (and I want that tennon)
So here is my question...can I get 1000 feet of routing (2hp Porter Cable
single speed) through redwood from a router bit..even with 2 bit's I'm 1/2
the price of the shaper. I plan on taking my time... but full cut (single
pass)
Thanks in advance.
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Bernard Randall
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| Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 8:54 am Post subject: Re: Router bit longevity question |
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"Dave A." <res0g68u@verizon.net> wrote in message
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I have to make 36 windows for my barn/shop. I'll be using kiln dried heart
redwood, S. yellow pine is also an option and slightly more $$ but
stronger.
I plan on using a 1/2" routerbit set up like the link.
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So here is my question...can I get 1000 feet of routing (2hp Porter Cable
single speed) through redwood from a router bit..even with 2 bit's I'm 1/2
the price of the shaper. I plan on taking my time... but full cut (single
pass)
Thanks in advance.
I did a similar number of windows using one of the pine family, UK |
equivalent for best durability. I used a single set of matching cutters
with no noticable loss of performance from start to finish. In fact just
checking them both are still in excellent condition.
Bernard R |
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Micro*
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| Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 9:03 am Post subject: Re: Router bit longevity question |
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"Dave A." <res0g68u@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:Ju58c.2387$HX2.1738@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...
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I have to make 36 windows for my barn/shop. I'll be using kiln dried heart
redwood, S. yellow pine is also an option and slightly more $$ but
stronger.
I plan on using a 1/2" routerbit set up like the link.
http://www.sommerfeldtools.com/tutorial-windowsash.asp basically it's a
1
3/8" stile/rail...but with a tennon (under $100). the tennon is needed
for
strength. Each window is 22/42 inches with 6 divided window panes. That
makes 25 feet per window of routing. (give or take) times 36 is 900 feet
of
routing...let's call it 1000 including waste.
I looked at shaper bits and none will route with the tennon, they are more
expensive about $425 (and I want that tennon)
So here is my question...can I get 1000 feet of routing (2hp Porter Cable
single speed) through redwood from a router bit..even with 2 bit's I'm 1/2
the price of the shaper. I plan on taking my time... but full cut (single
pass)
Thanks in advance.
Assuming the router bit is carbide, I would think you could rout more |
redwood than you could afford before it got too dull. I have routed the
rails and stiles of hard maple for kitchen cabinets, several 100's of feet,
with no noticable loss of cutting quality.
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"Shut up and keep diggen"
Jerry |
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Edwin Pawlowski
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| Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 9:09 am Post subject: Re: Router bit longevity question |
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"Mike in Mystic" <sandiedadog@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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check this out:
http://www.patwarner.com/routerbits.html
Mr. Warner knows about routing and according to the link above on his
site,
you likely will dull the bits after 200-400 feet of edge cutting. Anyway,
he has more info there, as well as on the rest of his site.
Mike
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There are places that will sharpen them at reasonable cost. Take a look at
www.ridgecarbidetool.com The most expensive price quoted is $10.50. Cut
half and send it out while you assemble the first half.
Ed
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Lew Hodgett
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| Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 10:08 am Post subject: Re: Router bit longevity question |
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"Dave A." writes:
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I have to make 36 windows for my barn/shop. I'll be using kiln dried heart
redwood, S. yellow pine is also an option and slightly more $$ but
stronger.
I plan on using a 1/2" routerbit set up like the link.
http://www.sommerfeldtools.com/tutorial-windowsash.asp
snip
So here is my question...can I get 1000 feet of routing (2hp Porter Cable
single speed) through redwood from a router bit..even with 2 bit's I'm 1/2
the price of the shaper.
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CMT will continue to get my router bit business until they prove they don't
deserve it; however, I seriously question whether that 2HP router is up to
the task.
Large bits require lower RPM routers. 20,000+ RPM routers don't cut it.
HTH
--
Lew
S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the Southland)
Visit: <http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett> for Pictures |
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Dave A.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 2:44 pm Post subject: Re: Router bit longevity question |
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Lew I respect your advice (and have agreed with many of your past
posts)...this bit set is not large in diameter, it's basically a 1/4 round,
bearing and rabit. It cuts a 1 3/8 high stile. I have found cheaper bits,
but after reading the 1st posters link
(http://www.patwarner.com/routerbits.html) will probably go with CMT to
ensure good balance and overall quality. Another poster noted that redwood
was easy on the bit, so I'll try a single set..
"Lew Hodgett" <lewhodgett@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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"Dave A." writes:
I have to make 36 windows for my barn/shop. I'll be using kiln dried
heart
redwood, S. yellow pine is also an option and slightly more $$ but
stronger.
I plan on using a 1/2" routerbit set up like the link.
http://www.sommerfeldtools.com/tutorial-windowsash.asp
snip
So here is my question...can I get 1000 feet of routing (2hp Porter Cable
single speed) through redwood from a router bit..even with 2 bit's I'm
1/2
the price of the shaper.
CMT will continue to get my router bit business until they prove they
don't
deserve it; however, I seriously question whether that 2HP router is up to
the task.
Large bits require lower RPM routers. 20,000+ RPM routers don't cut it.
HTH
--
Lew
S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the
Southland)
Visit: <http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett> for Pictures
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