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Roger Jensen
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 Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 5:54 pm Post subject: entry door |
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I am in the process of building a new entry door for my home. The existing
varnished 8-panel pine has served well for the past 30 years.
The new door will have a large rectangular center section of leaded glass
sandwiched in tempered sheets. The frame will be built of 2X8 stock for the
sides and top with a larger bottom, perhaps 2X12. I had thought of using
Honey Mesquite owing to dimensional stability and I like the idea of the
feeling the weight of it would give. But have not been able to find
top-notch clear kiln dried mesquite.
What are some good alternative choices? I want a darker (not stained) wood
that is heavy and as dimensional stable as possible.
Thanks,
Roger
Abilene, Texas
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Kim Whitmyre
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| Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 7:12 pm Post subject: Re: entry door |
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In article <Xbzac.4034$4S5.3355@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com>,
rjensen@swbell.net says...
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What are some good alternative choices? I want a darker (not stained) wood
that is heavy and as dimensional stable as possible.
Mahogony. . .I just hung a pre-built paneled entry door with an arched |
glass center that was solid Phillipine Mahogony. Not as rich as
Honduras, but after the clear finish went on, very nice in color.
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Roger Jensen
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| Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 7:38 pm Post subject: Re: entry door |
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Thanks Kim,
You are correct, mahogany is good choice. But I am looking for a "unique"
wood .. one that will work well, but not typically found on entry doors.
Roger
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Mahogony. . .I just hung a pre-built paneled entry door with an arched
glass center that was solid Phillipine Mahogony. Not as rich as
Honduras, but after the clear finish went on, very nice in color.
Kim
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Leon
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| Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 8:05 pm Post subject: Re: entry door |
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Ipe, Strong, stable, heavy and dark. But any wood is going to fade if it
is not protected from the sun light.
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I am in the process of building a new entry door for my home. The existing
varnished 8-panel pine has served well for the past 30 years.
The new door will have a large rectangular center section of leaded glass
sandwiched in tempered sheets. The frame will be built of 2X8 stock for
the
sides and top with a larger bottom, perhaps 2X12. I had thought of using
Honey Mesquite owing to dimensional stability and I like the idea of the
feeling the weight of it would give. But have not been able to find
top-notch clear kiln dried mesquite.
What are some good alternative choices? I want a darker (not stained)
wood
that is heavy and as dimensional stable as possible.
Thanks,
Roger
Abilene, Texas
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Robert Bonomi
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| Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 8:18 pm Post subject: Re: entry door |
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In article <hJAac.4045$Hj6.130@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com>,
Roger Jensen <rjensen@swbell.net> wrote:
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Thanks Kim,
You are correct, mahogany is good choice. But I am looking for a "unique"
wood .. one that will work well, but not typically found on entry doors.
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Teak?
Osage Orange? (dunno where you'd find it in wide enough widths, tho)
Black Locust?
Padouk?
Zebrawood?
Lignum Vitae? <muffled giggle>
"Petrified"
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Roger
Mahogony. . .I just hung a pre-built paneled entry door with an arched
glass center that was solid Phillipine Mahogony. Not as rich as
Honduras, but after the clear finish went on, very nice in color.
Kim
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Jim Wilson
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| Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 10:22 pm Post subject: Re: entry door |
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Roger Jensen wrote...
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What are some good alternative choices? I want a darker (not stained) wood
that is heavy and as dimensional stable as possible.
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This past November/December, I made an entry door of Sapele. It's an
African wood that is sometimes substituted for American mahogany (aka
genuine or Honduran mahogany). It is not African mahogany; that's a
different species.
It's harder and heavier and generally darker than both American (genuine)
and African mahogany. It has a similar-appearing grain, but a wider
variation in color than American mahogany. Like African mahogany, the
grain is often interlocked and this makes planing without tearout
difficult.
A lot of fine entry doors are made of mahogany or Spanish cedar.
Interestingly, Sapele looks sort of like mahogany and smells sort of like
cedar.
Here are a couple images:
www.paragoncode.com/woodworking/entry_door_small.jpg (~32kB)
www.paragoncode.com/woodworking/entry_door_large.jpg (~82kB)
There was noticeable tension in the wood I purchased. I did find some
movement while milling the rough stock, mostly when resawing and mostly
with curly pieces, but nothing was too bad. Just milled a little
oversize, let it set a couple days, then jointed and and planed to final
thickness. The thin trim pieces bowed, twisted and warped considerably
when taken from stock with wild grain. When ripped from straight-grained
stock, they behaved acceptably.
The finish was one coat of tung oil to pop the grain, followed by three
coats of lacquer (2 gloss + 1 satin).
I still need to install the window trim and perhaps some clavos. I've
been side-tracked by several other projects for the past few months --
it's always something!
Cheers,
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TeamCasa
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| Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 10:26 pm Post subject: Re: entry door |
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Do a Google search on Lyptus hardwood.
Dave
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I am in the process of building a new entry door for my home. The existing
varnished 8-panel pine has served well for the past 30 years.
The new door will have a large rectangular center section of leaded glass
sandwiched in tempered sheets. The frame will be built of 2X8 stock for
the
sides and top with a larger bottom, perhaps 2X12. I had thought of using
Honey Mesquite owing to dimensional stability and I like the idea of the
feeling the weight of it would give. But have not been able to find
top-notch clear kiln dried mesquite.
What are some good alternative choices? I want a darker (not stained)
wood
that is heavy and as dimensional stable as possible.
Thanks,
Roger
Abilene, Texas
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Larry Jaques
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| Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 6:36 am Post subject: Re: entry door |
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On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 14:38:05 GMT, "Roger Jensen" <rjensen@swbell.net>
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Thanks Kim,
You are correct, mahogany is good choice. But I am looking for a "unique"
wood .. one that will work well, but not typically found on entry doors.
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J. Clarke
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| Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 12:36 pm Post subject: Re: entry door |
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Roger Jensen wrote:
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I am in the process of building a new entry door for my home. The existing
varnished 8-panel pine has served well for the past 30 years.
The new door will have a large rectangular center section of leaded glass
sandwiched in tempered sheets. The frame will be built of 2X8 stock for
the sides and top with a larger bottom, perhaps 2X12. I had thought of
using Honey Mesquite owing to dimensional stability and I like the idea of
the feeling the weight of it would give. But have not been able to find
top-notch clear kiln dried mesquite.
What are some good alternative choices? I want a darker (not stained)
wood that is heavy and as dimensional stable as possible.
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How about Jarrah? Australian, reddish, hard and dense but not as hard or
dense as Ipe. Not something you're likely to see in another house in the
US although quite commonplace in Australia I understand.
Just a suggestion, but why not take a look through Woodworker's Source
<http://www.woodworkerssource.net/>--they show weight and hardness for each
species they carry and have inexpensive collector samples so you can get a
hands on look at anything that seems interesting without breaking the bank.
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Thanks,
Roger
Abilene, Texas
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