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Kirk E. Dobihal
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 Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 5:14 pm Post subject: Cabinet Saw Purchase |
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I'm in the market for the purchase of a cabinet saw. Last summer I burned
up a ryobi direct drive milling cypress for a deck. I promised myself,
never again direct drive. I have a chance at a used Delta cabinet saw, 3h,
3 belt, 220v with Beismeyer Fence. Includes rollers and extended table
wings. $1200 In that new ones are around 1500, my thinking is I am not
getting that much of a break. Anybody out there have any opinions on this
or advice on cabinet saws in general. |
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LRod
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| Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 5:25 pm Post subject: Re: Cabinet Saw Purchase |
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On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 08:14:42 -0500, "Kirk E. Dobihal"
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I'm in the market for the purchase of a cabinet saw. Last summer I burned
up a ryobi direct drive milling cypress for a deck. I promised myself,
never again direct drive. I have a chance at a used Delta cabinet saw, 3h,
3 belt, 220v with Beismeyer Fence. Includes rollers and extended table
wings. $1200 In that new ones are around 1500, my thinking is I am not
getting that much of a break. Anybody out there have any opinions on this
or advice on cabinet saws in general.
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Most everyone will leap to the conclusion that a Delta cabinet saw
you're refering to is a Unisaw. And it may be. Delta, however, does
(did) make a "Tilting Arbor" saw that is really a contractors saw in a
cabinet. Keeter refers to it as Unisaw Light. It's not worth $1200,
even new. Make sure this isn't one of them.
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LRod
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Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
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Swingman
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| Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 6:04 pm Post subject: Re: Cabinet Saw Purchase |
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"Kirk E. Dobihal" wrote in message
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I'm in the market for the purchase of a cabinet saw. Last summer I burned
up a ryobi direct drive milling cypress for a deck. I promised myself,
never again direct drive. I have a chance at a used Delta cabinet saw,
3h,
3 belt, 220v with Beismeyer Fence. Includes rollers and extended table
wings. $1200 In that new ones are around 1500, my thinking is I am not
getting that much of a break. Anybody out there have any opinions on this
or advice on cabinet saws in general.
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First and foremost, it depends upon the condition of the saw itself ... then
any extras that come with it and the cost of getting it home and running,
versus a new one.
Without seeing the saw in question, for $1200 I would expect to be buying
one "like new", with low mileage and in excellent condition ... YMMV.
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Edwin Pawlowski
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| Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 6:11 pm Post subject: Re: Cabinet Saw Purchase |
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"Kirk E. Dobihal" <dobihal@ccaonline.com> wrote in message ...
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I have a chance at a used Delta cabinet saw, 3h,
3 belt, 220v with Beismeyer Fence. Includes rollers and extended table
wings. $1200 In that new ones are around 1500, my thinking is I am not
getting that much of a break. Anybody out there have any opinions on this
or advice on cabinet saws in general.
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The real answer is in the condition of the saw. I think $1500 may be light
for that model today (I think closer to $1800) but you can check that out
easily. The Unisaw is one of the best on the market and you will not be
disappointed with it.
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Charlie Self
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| Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 6:36 pm Post subject: Re: Cabinet Saw Purchase |
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Kirk E. Dobihal states:
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have a chance at a used Delta cabinet saw, 3h,
3 belt, 220v with Beismeyer Fence. Includes rollers and extended table
wings. $1200 In that new ones are around 1500, my thinking is I am not
getting that much of a break. Anybody out there have any opinions on this
or advice on cabinet saws in general.
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It's not a helluva deal, but you face some "buts". Is it in great condition? Is
it tuned? How much use has it seen? I wouldn't touch a Unisaw at $1200 used
unless it hit the first 2 marks, and was on the low end for the third. Or
unless it was 40 years old and hit all 3 marks. I'd jump on that.
Look for rust, measure run-out, check miter slots, generally do everything
you'd do if you were planning on tuning the saw up at home. If you find ANY
problems at that price, walk away or negotiate.
After all, for another $300 or so, you get a new saw, with warranty.
Charlie Self
"Adam and Eve had many advantages but the principal one was that they escaped
teething." Mark Twain |
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Charlie Self
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| Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 7:00 pm Post subject: Re: Cabinet Saw Purchase |
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LRod writes:
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3 belt, 220v with Beismeyer Fence. Includes rollers and extended table
wings. $1200 In that new ones are around 1500, my thinking is I am not
getting that much of a break. Anybody out there have any opinions on this
or advice on cabinet saws in general.
Most everyone will leap to the conclusion that a Delta cabinet saw
you're refering to is a Unisaw. And it may be. Delta, however, does
(did) make a "Tilting Arbor" saw that is really a contractors saw in a
cabinet. Keeter refers to it as Unisaw Light. It's not worth $1200,
even new. Make sure this isn't one of them.
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Note the 3 belt. The Unisaw Lite uses, IIRC, 2 belts.
Charlie Self
"Adam and Eve had many advantages but the principal one was that they escaped
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Swingman
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| Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 7:11 pm Post subject: Re: Cabinet Saw Purchase |
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"Charlie Self" wrote in message
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LRod writes:
3 belt, 220v with Beismeyer Fence. Includes rollers and extended table
wings. $1200 In that new ones are around 1500, my thinking is I am not
getting that much of a break. Anybody out there have any opinions on
this
or advice on cabinet saws in general.
Most everyone will leap to the conclusion that a Delta cabinet saw
you're refering to is a Unisaw. And it may be. Delta, however, does
(did) make a "Tilting Arbor" saw that is really a contractors saw in a
cabinet. Keeter refers to it as Unisaw Light. It's not worth $1200,
even new. Make sure this isn't one of them.
Note the 3 belt. The Unisaw Lite uses, IIRC, 2 belts.
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That's what I was thinking also, and was why I leapt. IIRC, the "Unisaw
Lite" was selling new for around $1299 ... but with all the Delta
models/flavors these days, I could well be mistaken.
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LRod
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| Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 7:51 pm Post subject: Re: Cabinet Saw Purchase |
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On 08 Apr 2004 15:00:47 GMT, charliediy@aol.comnotforme (Charlie Self)
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LRod writes:
3 belt, 220v with Beismeyer Fence. Includes rollers and extended table
wings. $1200 In that new ones are around 1500, my thinking is I am not
getting that much of a break. Anybody out there have any opinions on this
or advice on cabinet saws in general.
Most everyone will leap to the conclusion that a Delta cabinet saw
you're refering to is a Unisaw. And it may be. Delta, however, does
(did) make a "Tilting Arbor" saw that is really a contractors saw in a
cabinet. Keeter refers to it as Unisaw Light. It's not worth $1200,
even new. Make sure this isn't one of them.
Note the 3 belt. The Unisaw Lite uses, IIRC, 2 belts.
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I wasn't aware of that. I just wanted to throw the U-L out as
something to watch out for. There have been plenty of people that
weren't aware of its existance.
Thanks.
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LRod
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B a r r y
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| Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 8:43 pm Post subject: Re: Cabinet Saw Purchase |
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On 08 Apr 2004 15:00:47 GMT, charliediy@aol.comnotforme (Charlie Self)
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Note the 3 belt. The Unisaw Lite uses, IIRC, 2 belts.
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The General 350/650 uses 2 belts.
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Swingman
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| Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 9:15 pm Post subject: Re: Cabinet Saw Purchase |
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"B a r r y" wrote in message
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On 08 Apr 2004 15:00:47 GMT, charliediy@aol.comnotforme (Charlie Self)
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Note the 3 belt. The Unisaw Lite uses, IIRC, 2 belts.
The General 350/650 uses 2 belts.
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Cheap POS, eh?
.... you know I'm kidding. General is the only saw I've seen in that general
price range I'd consider trading my Uni for.
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David Hall
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| Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 11:30 pm Post subject: Re: Cabinet Saw Purchase |
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charliediy@aol.comnotforme (Charlie Self) wrote in message news:<20040408103641.19765.00000016@mb-m10.aol.com>...
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Kirk E. Dobihal states:
have a chance at a used Delta cabinet saw, 3h,
3 belt, 220v with Beismeyer Fence. Includes rollers and extended table
wings. $1200 In that new ones are around 1500, my thinking is I am not
getting that much of a break. Anybody out there have any opinions on this
or advice on cabinet saws in general.
It's not a helluva deal, but you face some "buts". Is it in great condition? Is
it tuned? How much use has it seen? I wouldn't touch a Unisaw at $1200 used
unless it hit the first 2 marks, and was on the low end for the third. Or
unless it was 40 years old and hit all 3 marks. I'd jump on that.
Look for rust, measure run-out, check miter slots, generally do everything
you'd do if you were planning on tuning the saw up at home. If you find ANY
problems at that price, walk away or negotiate.
After all, for another $300 or so, you get a new saw, with warranty.
Charlie Self
"Adam and Eve had many advantages but the principal one was that they escaped
teething." Mark Twain
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OR for a couple hundred LESS you can get a new Grizzly cabinet saw with warrenty.
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LRod
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| Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 1:03 am Post subject: Re: Cabinet Saw Purchase |
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On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 21:16:32 GMT, Unisaw A100 <UnisawA100@wi.rr.com>
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LRod wrote:
Keeter refers to it as Unisaw Light.
I'm sure someone will prove me wrong but I don't ever
remember referring to it as a Unisaw Light.
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Hmmm. I stand corrected. Maybe *I* just coined it...
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LRod
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Mike at American Sycamore
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| Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 1:14 am Post subject: Re: Cabinet Saw Purchase |
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charliediy@aol.comnotforme (Charlie Self) wrote in message news:<20040408103641.19765.00000016@mb-m10.aol.com>...
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Kirk E. Dobihal states:
have a chance at a used Delta cabinet saw, 3h,
3 belt, 220v with Beismeyer Fence. Includes rollers and extended table
wings. $1200 In that new ones are around 1500, my thinking is I am not
getting that much of a break. Anybody out there have any opinions on this
or advice on cabinet saws in general.
It's not a helluva deal, but you face some "buts". Is it in great condition? Is
it tuned? How much use has it seen? I wouldn't touch a Unisaw at $1200 used
unless it hit the first 2 marks, and was on the low end for the third. Or
unless it was 40 years old and hit all 3 marks. I'd jump on that.
Look for rust, measure run-out, check miter slots, generally do everything
you'd do if you were planning on tuning the saw up at home. If you find ANY
problems at that price, walk away or negotiate.
After all, for another $300 or so, you get a new saw, with warranty.
Charlie Self
"Adam and Eve had many advantages but the principal one was that they escaped
teething." Mark Twain
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Dear Clif:
In a previous life I was a tool dealer and owned a woodworking supply
store. In my career I have sold 100's of tablesaws: Delta's, Jets,
Powermatics as well as Dewalts and others. Most problems one has with
equipment was freight damage. Since we unloaded the trucks, put them
in our wharehouse, and then loaded or deliveried them to the customer
direct we had very few problems. I am a big fan of the Delta Unisaw
and I have had experience with 100's of saws not just one, I am very
confident in recommending the Delta Unisaw. Delta always impowered me
to take care of the customer. I am sure the Delta Unisaw would give
you years of good service. In my opinion I believe the Unisaw is
still the best value and is the foundation of how other saws are
judged. Good luck and happy woodworking to you.
Mike |
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Unisaw A100
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| Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 1:16 am Post subject: Re: Cabinet Saw Purchase |
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LRod wrote:
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Most everyone will leap to the conclusion that a Delta cabinet saw
you're refering to is a Unisaw. And it may be. Delta, however, does
(did) make a "Tilting Arbor" saw that is really a contractors saw in a
cabinet. Keeter refers to it as Unisaw Light.
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I'm sure someone will prove me wrong but I don't ever
remember referring to it as a Unisaw Light. I have though
referred to it as a WantsaBeAUnisaw or/and a
Contractor'sSawInnaBox.
There is a saw that has been referred to by me as the Baby
Unisaw or the Junior Unisaw but the WBAU/CSIAB isn't that
saw.
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It's not worth $1200, even new. Make sure this isn't one of them.
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Ditto what ElRod said. Also, the WBAU/CSIAB isn't even
worth $600.
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Unisaw A100
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| Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 1:18 am Post subject: Re: Cabinet Saw Purchase |
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Note the 3 belt. The Unisaw Lite uses, IIRC, 2 belts.
Charlie Self
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Yah'but, I don't trust anyone's description of a machine
unless I'm there when he/she's describing it.
I can't tell you the number of times...
UA100 |
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