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Musing about books and stuff

 
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Arch
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 3:15 pm    Post subject: Musing about books and stuff Reply with quote
I bought two more woodturning books recently and I have thoroughly
enjoyed perusing both. Ray Key's older classic for a bedtime read
during my London sojurn, and Mark Baker's current offering because I
like his editorials and magazine. Both comprise pictorial instructions
for projects combined with the ever-present and seemingly mandatory,
wadding of safety, tools and equipment. I already have catalogs with
pictures and would have preferred more narrative re the author's
opinions on current issues that affect the turning life. (BTW, is
unbiased opinion an oxymoron?) OK (sighs & groans), what is he musing
about this time?

Well, I've listened to many lectures, watched many tapes, attended many
demos visited many websites and gabbed for hours. However for me, what
little residual knowledge remains is mostly from reading which I love
doing. I do wonder why I continue buying books of pictures when there
are so many just as good or often better all over the internet ....and
for free!

So the point, if there is one, of these few (yeah, right) words is how
do y'all best enjoy and retain learning about our art/craft? DIY advice
etc. surely has its place, but what primarily narrative current books or
articles can you suggest for me? Why? I've about worn out Pain and
Child. Thanks, Arch

Fortiter,
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Chuck
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 8:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Musing about books and stuff Reply with quote
On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 11:15:22 -0400 (EDT), almcc@webtv.net (Arch) hurled
these words of wisdom into the ether:


Quote:
So the point, if there is one, of these few (yeah, right) words is how
do y'all best enjoy and retain learning about our art/craft?

By doing.


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Arch
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 11:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Musing about books and stuff Reply with quote
Hi Chuck,
No doubt doing is best for learning _how. I had in mind the larger
question; learning _about. One can learn to dig by digging, but
archeologists read many books to learn why they dig. For aye, Arch

Fortiter,
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Arch
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 4:06 am    Post subject: Re: Musing about books and stuff Reply with quote
Hi Darrell,
You not only understood my question but you stated it better. If you
lived in Stuart, I might become a Baptist. Southern, of course. Smile
Regards, Arch

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James Clark
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 5:45 am    Post subject: Re: Musing about books and stuff Reply with quote
To read is to acquire knowledge, but you can't acquire wisdom without doing.

James

Arch wrote:

Quote:
Hi Chuck,
No doubt doing is best for learning _how. I had in mind the larger
question; learning _about. One can learn to dig by digging, but
archeologists read many books to learn why they dig. For aye, Arch

Fortiter,

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Darrell Feltmate
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 8:26 am    Post subject: Re: Musing about books and stuff Reply with quote
James Clark wrote:
Quote:
To read is to acquire knowledge, but you can't acquire wisdom without
doing.

James

You make the assumption that the wisdom is the ability to turn, at least
as far as we are talking about turning. However, as I understand the
thread, Arch is not taking about turning so much as a personal
philosophy of why we turn at all. What makes us appreciate the wonder in
the grain of a piece of wood? What is the facination that causes us to
beat speeding pieces of wood with sharp tools in the hopes that whatever
is left will be beautiful, or meaningful, or just plain satisfying? This
would be wisdom that comes of thinking and stimulated by the written
word as well as by oral debate.

--
God bless and safe turning
Darrell Feltmate
Truro, NS, Canada
http://www.aroundthewoods.com
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Earl
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 8:49 am    Post subject: Re: Musing about books and stuff Reply with quote
Quote:
So the point, if there is one, of these few (yeah, right) words is how
do y'all best enjoy and retain learning about our art/craft?

I'm with you on books. I love reading books. But I'm finding fewer
and fewer on woodturning that stimulate me. As you said, it seems
that all books spend 50% of the pages repeating what has already been
said.

I find I spend as much or more time thinking about the next piece I
will be turning...planning, looking at similar ideas on the internet
or in books. It is the process of being creative and also learning
something new that excites me. The actual "doing" is the culmination
and execution.

Earl
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James Clark
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 3:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Musing about books and stuff Reply with quote
Ah, I should never get philosophical around a man of God.

Also, Darrell

Did you ever work in the Woodstock, NB area. I showed a friend your
website and he though your name sounded familiar.

Darrell Feltmate wrote:
Quote:


James Clark wrote:

To read is to acquire knowledge, but you can't acquire wisdom without
doing.

James
You make the assumption that the wisdom is the ability to turn, at least
as far as we are talking about turning. However, as I understand the
thread, Arch is not taking about turning so much as a personal
philosophy of why we turn at all. What makes us appreciate the wonder in
the grain of a piece of wood? What is the facination that causes us to
beat speeding pieces of wood with sharp tools in the hopes that whatever
is left will be beautiful, or meaningful, or just plain satisfying? This
would be wisdom that comes of thinking and stimulated by the written
word as well as by oral debate.
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Tony Manella
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 5:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Musing about books and stuff Reply with quote
Hi Arch,
For thought provoking reading try Mike Darlows series of books. While they
are filled with many pictures there is plenty of reading and its hard to
find more comprehensive coverage of woodturning topics in any one source.
For example his one book has 10 or 12 methods listed for turning a sphere.

I haven't purchased his woodturning design book yet but plan on it being my
next book purchase. As far as woodturning philosophy I think Nietzsche
wrote a book about that, or was it Ophra? I always get those two confused.
Wink
Tony Manella
ndd1"at"prolog.net (remove "at")
http://home.ptd.net/~ndd1/
Lehigh Valley Woodturners
http://www.lehighvalleywoodturners.org/

"Arch" <almcc@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:1569-4071780A-276@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net...
Quote:
I bought two more woodturning books recently and I have thoroughly
enjoyed perusing both. Ray Key's older classic for a bedtime read
during my London sojurn, and Mark Baker's current offering because I
like his editorials and magazine. Both comprise pictorial instructions
for projects combined with the ever-present and seemingly mandatory,
wadding of safety, tools and equipment. I already have catalogs with
pictures and would have preferred more narrative re the author's
opinions on current issues that affect the turning life. (BTW, is
unbiased opinion an oxymoron?) OK (sighs & groans), what is he musing
about this time?

Well, I've listened to many lectures, watched many tapes, attended many
demos visited many websites and gabbed for hours. However for me, what
little residual knowledge remains is mostly from reading which I love
doing. I do wonder why I continue buying books of pictures when there
are so many just as good or often better all over the internet ....and
for free!

So the point, if there is one, of these few (yeah, right) words is how
do y'all best enjoy and retain learning about our art/craft? DIY advice
etc. surely has its place, but what primarily narrative current books or
articles can you suggest for me? Why? I've about worn out Pain and
Child. Thanks, Arch

Fortiter,

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Joel
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 6:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Musing about books and stuff Reply with quote
almcc@webtv.net (Arch) wrote in message news:<1569-4071780A-276@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net>...
Quote:
(BTW, is unbiased opinion an oxymoron?) OK (sighs & groans), what is he musing about this time?

Fortiter,


Oscar Wilde had an opinion regarding unbiased opinions...but then
Oscar had an opinion (rarely unbiased) on most everything. Whew!

"It is only about things that do not interest one, that one can give a
really unbiased opinion; and this is no doubt the reason why an
unbiased opinion is always valueless."

Joel
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Darrell Feltmate
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 9:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Musing about books and stuff Reply with quote
James
Always get philosophical around a man of God, we need someone to show us
how to be humble. Reason to be humble is not my problem, getting there
is. I used to have two churches in Perth-Andover, New Brunswick, about
an hour from Woodstock.
--
God bless and safe turning
Darrell Feltmate
Truro, NS, Canada
http://www.aroundthewoods.com
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Robert
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 11:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Musing about books and stuff Reply with quote
I find reading books on creativity hel p, because few of us are
regularly creative due to our lifestyles, etc. One of the better ones
I have found is this one:
"How to Think Like Leonardo da Vinci: Seven Steps
to Genius Every Day", Michael J. Gelb

I have others if anyone is interested in more titles.
Robert


almcc@webtv.net (Arch) wrote in message news:<1569-4071780A-276@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net>...

Quote:

Well, I've listened to many lectures, watched many tapes, attended many
demos visited many websites and gabbed for hours. However for me, what
little residual knowledge remains is mostly from reading which I love
doing. I do wonder why I continue buying books of pictures when there
are so many just as good or often better all over the internet ....and
for free!

So the point, if there is one, of these few (yeah, right) words is how
do y'all best enjoy and retain learning about our art/craft? DIY advice
etc. surely has its place, but what primarily narrative current books or
articles can you suggest for me? Why? I've about worn out Pain and
Child. Thanks, Arch

Fortiter,
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