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Mitch
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 Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 2:25 am Post subject: table saw wax? |
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Hello,
I bought a new dewalt table saw and the instructions say to clean table
surface with mineral spirits and then apply paste wax. I went to home depot
and lowes but no one knew what i was talking about. Is it like surfboard wax
(bar) or is it in a tube? Where can I get some?
Thanks for your help....mitch |
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Tyke
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| Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 4:42 am Post subject: Re: table saw wax? |
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I have two products which prevent cast iron from rusting.
a) Boeshield 9. This is a spray. Available at real woodoworking/tool
stores. I bought some recently from www.woodpeck.com
b) Slippit. This is like a white silicon wax-substitute. This is wiped on
and left to dry. I would do a search for this. I bought this can at a
woodworking show.
Both work well.
Dave Paine.
"Mitch" <lawdoggys3@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Hello,
I bought a new dewalt table saw and the instructions say to clean table
surface with mineral spirits and then apply paste wax. I went to home
depot
and lowes but no one knew what i was talking about. Is it like surfboard
wax
(bar) or is it in a tube? Where can I get some?
Thanks for your help....mitch
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Doug Miller
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| Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 4:45 am Post subject: Re: table saw wax? |
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In article <2nl9upF2501rU1@uni-berlin.de>, "Mitch" <lawdoggys3@hotmail.com> wrote:
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Hello,
I bought a new dewalt table saw and the instructions say to clean table
surface with mineral spirits and then apply paste wax. I went to home depot
and lowes but no one knew what i was talking about. Is it like surfboard wax
(bar) or is it in a tube? Where can I get some?
First, you need to find a clerk with a clue... sometimes that's hard at Lowe's |
or HD.
Next, you need to find a paste wax that does *not* contain silicone (which
does baaad things to wood finishes). Three brands that are known to be
silicone-free are Johnson's, Minwax, and Butchers.
Then, you need to find a place that actually sells one of those brands.
Forget Wal-Mart. You'd think they'd have it, but they don't. Don't even bother
trying.
Johnson's Paste Wax is sold at *some* Lowe's stores, but not all. It'll be in
the paint department, near the stains and varnishes, if they have it. Do a
Google Groups search on this newsgroup -- someone (Sylvan?) posted the Lowe's
stock number for it a few months back, so if your local Lowe's doesn't stock
it, they should be able to order it for you.
Every Ace Hardware store that I've ever been in sells Johnson's, on the aisle
with the cleaning supplies -- when you find Mop'n'Glo, you're near the JPW.
Independent grocery stores often have Johnson's, with the cleaning supplies.
Minwax Paste Finishing Wax will be in the paint department at Lowe's or Home
Depot, and probably at Ace too. It's fairly common.
Butchers? Can't help you there. Never seen it. Other people here swear by it,
and I'm sure they can tell you where to find it. Or you can Google this ng.
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patriarch
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| Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 4:46 am Post subject: Re: table saw wax? |
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"Mitch" <lawdoggys3@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:2nl9upF2501rU1@uni-berlin.de:
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Hello,
I bought a new dewalt table saw and the instructions say to clean
table surface with mineral spirits and then apply paste wax. I went to
home depot and lowes but no one knew what i was talking about. Is it
like surfboard wax (bar) or is it in a tube? Where can I get some?
Thanks for your help....mitch
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Now go to a real hardware store. One that says 'Ace', or 'True Value', or
'Do it Best' on the front of the building. Or look for someone behind the
counter who experienced the Eisenhower administration personally.
What you're looking for comes in a can, with a pry-off lid. Johnson's
Paste Wax. Butcher's. Minwax. Briwax. Liberon. Something your
grandmother would have used to polish a floor. Usually a mixture of
carnuba & beeswax, with a solvent of some kind used to make it smearable.
Rub on a very thin coat, with a clean rag, as though you were polishing a
pair of good leather shoes. Let it dry to a slight haze, then, with
another clean rag, buff it off, rubbing hard to generate a little heat.
What you're trying to end up with is a thin, slippery coat on the unpainted
portions of the table. The idea is to reduce friction, and keep moisture
from gathering, which invites rust.
Do this once a week or so, whether you think it needs it or not. The
thickness of the wax will not build beyond what is required. Takes maybe 5
minutes. While it dries, check your blade for crud build up, your splitter
for function, and make certain offcuts, chips and sawdust aren't where they
shouldn't be.
Now, having thumped on the BORG, I give you permission to go back, if you
must. They sometimes have what you need, but you will have to look. It's
not a high volume item for anyone, anymore. Even busy woodworkers are
unlikely to purchase very many cans in a hobbyist career.
Welcome to the fraternity of tablesaw owners. Enjoy your purchase safely.
Patriarch
ps: Get a copy of Kelly Mehler's 'The Tablesaw Book'. Trust his wise
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Newshound
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| Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 4:47 am Post subject: Re: table saw wax? |
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"Mitch" <lawdoggys3@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2nl9upF2501rU1@uni-berlin.de...
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Hello,
I bought a new dewalt table saw
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nice saw....enjoy!
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and the instructions say to clean table
surface with mineral spirits and then apply paste wax. I went to home
depot
and lowes but no one knew what i was talking about.
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Not surprised about that! Did they not know what mineral spirits is? 
You can use any good automotive paste wax -works well for me. I'm sure
there is a dedicated "table saw wax", but probably just automotive stuff at
a higher price.
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Is it like surfboard wax?
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Never waxed a surfbard. ???????
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(bar) or is it in a tube? Where can I get some?
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Any good auto parts store should have an endless selection.
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Thanks for your help....mitch
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YW
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Dave Balderstone
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| Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 4:48 am Post subject: Re: table saw wax? |
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In article <2nl9upF2501rU1@uni-berlin.de>, Mitch
<lawdoggys3@hotmail.com> wrote:
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I bought a new dewalt table saw and the instructions say to clean table
surface with mineral spirits and then apply paste wax. I went to home depot
and lowes but no one knew what i was talking about. Is it like surfboard wax
(bar) or is it in a tube? Where can I get some?
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I use Minwax paste wax. Works great. Don't use anything with silicone
in it. It'll wreak havok on finishing your wood. |
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John
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| Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 4:50 am Post subject: Re: table saw wax? |
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Johnson's Paste Wax (for floors), or something similiar
Car Wax is not appropriate
Or, you can use something like TopCoat or BoeShield T9
John
On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 16:25:32 -0600, "Mitch" <lawdoggys3@hotmail.com>
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Hello,
I bought a new dewalt table saw and the instructions say to clean table
surface with mineral spirits and then apply paste wax. I went to home depot
and lowes but no one knew what i was talking about. Is it like surfboard wax
(bar) or is it in a tube? Where can I get some?
Thanks for your help....mitch
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John
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| Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 4:53 am Post subject: Re: table saw wax? |
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Newshound
DO NOT use automotive wax, they contain silcones that can rub off on
the wood and cause finishing problems
Floor waxes like Johnsons/BriWax/etc are what should be used on on
woodworking tools/tables
John
On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 00:47:15 GMT, "Newshound" <denaas@swbell.net>
wrote:
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"Mitch" <lawdoggys3@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2nl9upF2501rU1@uni-berlin.de...
Hello,
I bought a new dewalt table saw
nice saw....enjoy!
and the instructions say to clean table
surface with mineral spirits and then apply paste wax. I went to home
depot
and lowes but no one knew what i was talking about.
Not surprised about that! Did they not know what mineral spirits is?
You can use any good automotive paste wax -works well for me. I'm sure
there is a dedicated "table saw wax", but probably just automotive stuff at
a higher price.
Is it like surfboard wax?
Never waxed a surfbard. ???????
(bar) or is it in a tube? Where can I get some?
Any good auto parts store should have an endless selection.
Thanks for your help....mitch
YW
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Newshound
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| Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 5:02 am Post subject: Re: table saw wax? |
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Yep, I agree, don't use an automotive wax with silicone. May have to look
around (avoid the "easy" stuff), but there are plenty of automotive waxes
that do not have silicone in them.
"John" <john@interoz.com> wrote in message
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Newshound
DO NOT use automotive wax, they contain silcones that can rub off on
the wood and cause finishing problems
Floor waxes like Johnsons/BriWax/etc are what should be used on on
woodworking tools/tables
John
On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 00:47:15 GMT, "Newshound" <denaas@swbell.net
wrote:
"Mitch" <lawdoggys3@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2nl9upF2501rU1@uni-berlin.de...
Hello,
I bought a new dewalt table saw
nice saw....enjoy!
and the instructions say to clean table
surface with mineral spirits and then apply paste wax. I went to home
depot
and lowes but no one knew what i was talking about.
Not surprised about that! Did they not know what mineral spirits is?
You can use any good automotive paste wax -works well for me. I'm sure
there is a dedicated "table saw wax", but probably just automotive stuff
at
a higher price.
Is it like surfboard wax?
Never waxed a surfbard. ???????
(bar) or is it in a tube? Where can I get some?
Any good auto parts store should have an endless selection.
Thanks for your help....mitch
YW
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MikeG
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| Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 5:17 am Post subject: Re: table saw wax? |
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In article <3JeRc.1870$Ow6.147534@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com>,
spambait@milmac.com says...
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In article <2nl9upF2501rU1@uni-berlin.de>, "Mitch" <lawdoggys3@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I bought a new dewalt table saw and the instructions say to clean table
surface with mineral spirits and then apply paste wax. I went to home depot
and lowes but no one knew what i was talking about. Is it like surfboard wax
(bar) or is it in a tube? Where can I get some?
First, you need to find a clerk with a clue... sometimes that's hard at Lowe's
or HD.
Next, you need to find a paste wax that does *not* contain silicone (which
does baaad things to wood finishes). Three brands that are known to be
silicone-free are Johnson's, Minwax, and Butchers.
Then, you need to find a place that actually sells one of those brands.
Forget Wal-Mart. You'd think they'd have it, but they don't. Don't even bother
trying.
Johnson's Paste Wax is sold at *some* Lowe's stores, but not all. It'll be in
the paint department, near the stains and varnishes, if they have it. Do a
Google Groups search on this newsgroup -- someone (Sylvan?) posted the Lowe's
stock number for it a few months back, so if your local Lowe's doesn't stock
it, they should be able to order it for you.
Every Ace Hardware store that I've ever been in sells Johnson's, on the aisle
with the cleaning supplies -- when you find Mop'n'Glo, you're near the JPW.
Independent grocery stores often have Johnson's, with the cleaning supplies.
Minwax Paste Finishing Wax will be in the paint department at Lowe's or Home
Depot, and probably at Ace too. It's fairly common.
Butchers? Can't help you there. Never seen it. Other people here swear by it,
and I'm sure they can tell you where to find it. Or you can Google this ng.
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Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)
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Just an FYI
During the great Johnson's paste wax scare I got curious and gave the
Min Wax 800 number a call.
Straight from the horse's mouth
Min Wax paste wax does contain anti slip agents and would NOT be
appropriate for use on a table saw top or other such item where
resistant free movement would be desired.
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MikeG
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
mikeg@heirloom-woods.net |
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Edwin Pawlowski
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| Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 5:45 am Post subject: Re: table saw wax? |
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"Mitch" <lawdoggys3@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I bought a new dewalt table saw and the instructions say to clean table
surface with mineral spirits and then apply paste wax. I went to home
depot
and lowes but no one knew what i was talking about. Is it like surfboard
wax
(bar) or is it in a tube? Where can I get some?
Thanks for your help....mitch
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I see you got plenty of answers or where to find was. I have another
suggestion.
Lee Valley (and others) sells Top Cote. It works better for me. Sprays on
and you just wipe it after it dries. Boeshield is another good product.
With wax I got rust a couple of times. With Top Cote, nothing. YM will V
depending on temperature, humidity, heated or unheated shop, etc.
Ed
esp@snet.net
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome |
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Don Haynes
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| Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 5:46 am Post subject: Re: table saw wax? |
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RonB
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| Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 6:07 am Post subject: Re: table saw wax? |
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You can order SLIPIT from Grizzly at around $10 a can (which will last a
long, long time). It is also a good surface lubricant. Slipit is actually
a silicon free product so it does not put a silicon residue on your wood.
You just brush it on, let it set for a few moments and wipe the surface dry
(kinda gooey but it cleans off quite well).
It also comes in spray but the grizzly rep said the past has better staying
power.
RonB
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I have two products which prevent cast iron from rusting.
a) Boeshield 9. This is a spray. Available at real woodoworking/tool
stores. I bought some recently from www.woodpeck.com
b) Slippit. This is like a white silicon wax-substitute. This is wiped
on
and left to dry. I would do a search for this. I bought this can at a
woodworking show.
Both work well.
Dave Paine.
"Mitch" <lawdoggys3@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2nl9upF2501rU1@uni-berlin.de...
Hello,
I bought a new dewalt table saw and the instructions say to clean table
surface with mineral spirits and then apply paste wax. I went to home
depot
and lowes but no one knew what i was talking about. Is it like surfboard
wax
(bar) or is it in a tube? Where can I get some?
Thanks for your help....mitch
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J. Clarke
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| Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 6:10 am Post subject: Re: table saw wax? |
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Mitch wrote:
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Hello,
I bought a new dewalt table saw and the instructions say to clean table
surface with mineral spirits and then apply paste wax. I went to home
depot and lowes but no one knew what i was talking about. Is it like
surfboard wax (bar) or is it in a tube? Where can I get some?
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It comes in a can, similar to car wax. There are several brands. Johnson's
Paste Wax is the "classic". Butcher's Wax is also well established and is
normally in stock at Home Depot--wander around the paint aisle and you
should find it--if you go to <http://www.butcherwax.com/catalog.html>
you'll find pictures of the can so you'll know what to look for--ask the
guy for "bowling alley wax" and he's more likely to know what you're
talking about than if you ask for "paste wax". Briwax is another good
brand. Any kind of car wax that doesn't contain silicone should also do.
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Thanks for your help....mitch
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Charlie Self
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| Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 6:20 am Post subject: Re: table saw wax? |
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Mitch asks:
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I bought a new dewalt table saw and the instructions say to clean table
surface with mineral spirits and then apply paste wax. I went to home depot
and lowes but no one knew what i was talking about. Is it like surfboard wax
(bar) or is it in a tube? Where can I get some?
Thanks for your help....mitch
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Grocery store. Paste floor wax, usually on the bottom shelf with all the liquid
easy-apply junk surrounding it. Or brew your own, just for kicks.
Charlie Self
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those that don't work, those that break down and those that get lost." Russell
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